I think we must understood Judical Comittess are kangaroo courts, to suit congressional needs, financed by a business organisation hiding behind a religion. Therefore reason and justice are not applied. I say this because you assume the assumption that an elder having sat on a J.C whist hiding a secret sin would make the others elders question the decision. This would rarely happen because the elders would have to question the "Holy Spirit" and "ummm" their own " Jehover" given authority to have made a decision with that " Holy Spirit" in the first place.
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Judical committee flaws
by Chook inif an elder sitting in a jc has a secret sin of a serious nature, his rulings that took place while this sin was unknown are still binding.
in a court of law of most countries that would be a grounds for appeal.
regardless i know they are kangaroo courts ,where anyone who has any biblical knowledge knows they can't back up a scriptural reference for a three man tribunal.
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Do you remember 1975? I remember 1984.
by The Rebel inif i mention "1984" you will probably think of george orwell and his book " 1984".however i think of "1984" as a year in my life when watford football club reached the f.a cup final.
( the f.a cup is the biggest footballing occasion in english sport, and my club " little watford" were in it) but instead of going to watch the game, i was forced by my dad to miss attending the match and prioritize on theocratic w.t study.. so for me the year 1984 was the year i should have woken up to " the truth about the truth" sadly it took another 30 years of generation and doctrinal change before this boy became " awake" and understood his defining moment and realized he was fooled by the w.t.. anyway 1984 was a long time ago, but today in 2016, i realized 1984 had a " modern day 2016 application" that happened last saturday, when i took my boy to watch my " little " watford play "mighty "manchester united" and we won 3.1. now it's wednesday and my boy and i are still on cloud 9, even orlandos school teacher started monday lessons by saying " well done watford ".
yes little watford outplayed and beat the mighty united.
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if I mention "1984" you will probably think of George Orwell and his book " 1984".However I think of "1984" as a year in my life when Watford football club reached the F.A cup final. ( The F.A cup is the biggest footballing occasion in English sport, and my club " little watford" were in it) But instead of going to watch the game, I was forced by my dad to miss attending the match and prioritize on theocratic W.T study.
So for me the year 1984 was the year I should have woken up to " The truth about the truth" Sadly it took another 30 years of generation and doctrinal change before this boy became " awake" and understood his defining moment and realized he was fooled by the W.T.
Anyway 1984 was a long time ago, but today in 2016, I realized 1984 had a " modern day 2016 application" That happened last Saturday, when I took my boy to watch my " little " Watford play "mighty "Manchester United" and we won 3.1. Now it's Wednesday and my boy and I are still on cloud 9, even Orlandos school teacher started Monday lessons by saying " well done Watford "
Yes little Watford outplayed and beat the mighty United. This is what life is about, it's not about living with and being fooled by a mighty cult. These leaders are not better than us, and they are not worth picking fights with. So I am glad I have created a new life and I no longer allow the ego of the " mighty " G.B to overshadow that life. So I have moved on,and this prodigal son now says I beat the G.B by finding happiness and moving on in my life...
If this O.P seems selfish, I would say everytime I see a witness I pity them, but I would be shocked if my reasoning with them will ever work. Jehovers Witnesses are a cult and the call to reason and convincing people they have been fooled by a cult is hard, because they need a defining moment. .My defining moment was 1984, and I believe the trick to helping people out a cult is not 1975, or 1914 generation changes but finding in a cult member their individual reason to move on ...mine was 1984 and a football match a cult made me miss.
What was yours?
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What is the purpose of life?
by slimboyfat inwhile reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.
because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".
i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.
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Ruby, interesting post
The Rebel, Well as its my life I need to get on with it, and put the spaghetti on, bring it to the boil whilst the king size prawns enter the frying pan. I am a lucky guy to have a family who pretend to appreciate my attempts at making spaghetti & king sized prawns" ummm yummy really tastes nice". Now as for tonight I wish my wife would "ummm " she can be magical, if she would just finish reading our boy his good night stories before I am sadly asleep....
The purpose of life, is not wearing the latest Nike shoes, even the witnesses were right about that. So how does " what is the purpose of life" work? Well I would say, simply have control, because the years go by so fast they can just disappear.
Anyway we await for Slim to give us the correct answer. Don't we...!!!
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What is the purpose of life?
by slimboyfat inwhile reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.
because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".
i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.
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The O.P is" What is the purpose of life?
Started by poster " Slimboyfat"
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So what am I doing on this thread?
Why are you here?
It's because our legendary Slimboyfat, has found " the purpose of life" which wasn't keeping us in suspense but keeping us thinking on his " deep thoughts" when we are in the toilet, and when we are making love...
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Big news from Kim and Mikey, they state in thier latest video proof the WT invested in the Nazi war machine!!
by Crazyguy inthis is big!
according to what they say if i'm correct an investigation was done back in 1998 in concerning what american companies invested money in to germany.
mike and kim state that a document they have attained shows a list of american firms that had invested into germany as late as 1943. on this list is non other then watchtower !!
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The Rebel
If you are passionate and sincere about exposing history, then get your facts correct, because history is hard to cover and irresponsible comments are "counterproductive". However if based on facts people don't like history being challenged it's "productive" regardless.
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What is the purpose of life?
by slimboyfat inwhile reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.
because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".
i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.
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The purpose of life is the mother in law.
Slim, put up or shut up, so we can put this thread to bed.
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What is the purpose of life?
by slimboyfat inwhile reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.
because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".
i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.
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Slim "Lots of good answers, but no one has mentioned the right answer yet. I haven't got much time today"
The Rebel :- So slim the answer can be solved and presumably by you? Therefore please make it a talking point when you have time. Its a bizarre thought to even think Slim is to busy to tell us, maybe he is just keeping us in suspense?
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What is the purpose of life?
by slimboyfat inwhile reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.
because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".
i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.
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The purpose of life is sadly for some not silence :-)
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What Happens to Adam and Eve?
by Cold Steel inin jw theology, what happens to adam and eve?
are they resurrected and become heirs to paradise on earth?
or will they become two of the heavenly class?
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Slim " page 142 of the Divine Plan of the Ages seems to say God foresaw that Adam would sin"
The Rebel:- . We will have more on this as we get it...but this just goes to show words can come back and bite you on the bottom. My bet however is that neither Russell or Rutherford are in a position to make any further comment or statement on this issue. But they may be turning in their graves laughing we are still discussing and taking their bullshit so seriously.
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How to start....
by The Rebel ini think it would be a good idea to start a thread with suggestions on how to start a journey away from the w.t.
obviously circumstances are different for each individual.. my advice is:-.
a) fade gently but with the objective never to return.. b) my opinion on beliefs and theology is that if they are not verifiable and relevant to your everyday life then set them aside for now.. c) if you have spent your life sincerly believing your ministry was helping in the most important work beiing done on the earth, then i would would suggest simply by being ethical in speech and action, will effect others in a positive way evangelizing as a j.w never could.. d.) as for armeggedon, that's simply control by fear.
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LoveUnHateExams...
Yes the best position when leaving is to have a life outside the watchtower to enjoy. Otherwise leaving is something like a ruderless ship. As for myself I had my football club, and my boy to share the obsession with. This worked great with getting the wife out, as she saw this wonderful relationship my son and I were having, and even if she could never share the football, she could see the wonderful family we could be outside of going to meetings and on service and then associating with people, many of whom we never really got on with anyway.
And most important of all, I think we both agree how lucky we are to now bring up our child outside of something he clearly hated. He is so much happier now. Made it all worthwhile. So many wonderful moments and love we have had that you simply can't have if you make a boy be something he doesn't want to be.